General Election o/t

General Election o/t

Postby jbc.shrimp » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:15 pm

On Google at the moment, a petition for a fresh Gen Elec. I am no politician but I thought there had to be a vote of no confidence in the present gov within the commons to trigger a fresh G.E. Just curious.
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby black morse » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:42 pm

jbc.shrimp wrote:On Google at the moment, a petition for a fresh Gen Elec. I am no politician but I thought there had to be a vote of no confidence in the present gov within the commons to trigger a fresh G.E. Just curious.


I'm no expert either but I think the petition triggers a debate in the commons if it reaches a certain number of signatures and then the debate can lead to a vote of no confidence. There may well be a debate triggered but that's as far as it will get.
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby Scouseport_Shrimp » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:51 pm

Two Tier has already said that a lot of people never voted for Liebour.....but a lot of people did, and the latter won, so there is so far as he is concerned no need for another General Election.

So far as I'm concerned, I thoroughly endorse that the Tories were doing a crap job in government. But Liebour, under Two Tier are awful. Liebour got in easily by traditional Tory voters migrating to Reform, who were never going to get in.

Now Liebour are continually telling lie after lie, and the country is on the slippery slope.
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby Keith » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:28 pm

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:
...and the country is on the slippery slope.


'cause it was all going so well under the Tories! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you noticed how Farage and co all said there couldn't be a second Referendum after people realised how much they'd been lied to, because 'that's not how democracy works' are now the same people calling for another General Election, because they lost?
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby captain sparkle » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:33 pm

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote: Liebour got in easily by traditional Tory voters migrating to Reform, who were never going to get in.

Which came about as the result of a legal & democratic election, I've no problem with that, have you?

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote: Now Liebour are continually telling lie after lie, and the country is on the slippery slope.


So, why is the country on a slippery slope & what is your advice on how to rectify it?
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby Phil Anderer » Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:29 pm

The people now calling for a rerun of the general election are the same ones who had a go at so-called 'Remoaners' after the referendum. Get a life, FFS. We had an election, it resulted in a Labour landslide, and barring exceptional circumstances we'll not have another general election until 2029.
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby thenorm » Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:52 pm

Next General Election will be about August 2029
The sooner everyone gets that through their skulls, the easier it will be
As much as some people don't like what is going on, suck it up cos nothing ain't changing
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby redrobo » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:39 pm

thenorm wrote:Next General Election will be about August 2029
The sooner everyone gets that through their skulls, the easier it will be
As much as some people don't like what is going on, suck it up cos nothing ain't changing


Unfortunately true.....BUT the decision over Winter Payments is obscene and will only result in the NHS under even more pressure due to the health of the aged becoming increasingly worse.

The Chancellor had obviously got that policy in her mind well before the Election but didn't have the courage to tell the population 'cause she knew it could have had a serious effect on the result.

For me she's as incompetent as Liz Truss...and that is saying something.

The PM will never allow the Winter Fuel policy to be changed or even accept the hardship and potential deaths it will cause.

To admit he got it wrong and to change shows courage BUT to retain it shows a total lack of leadership and down right stubbornness.

By the way we are one of the many elderly couples who don't really need the payment.....and would have been prepared to forsake it if asked.
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby mrpotatohead » Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:36 pm

Shock horror....party wins election then goes back on promises etc.....blah blah blah

Which party was ever honest?
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:18 am

Keith wrote:
Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:
...and the country is on the slippery slope.


'cause it was all going so well under the Tories! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you noticed how Farage and co all said there couldn't be a second Referendum after people realised how much they'd been lied to, because 'that's not how democracy works' are now the same people calling for another General Election, because they lost?


The petition will absolutely fail, why? Because it’s con to get the masses to think they have a voice.

This Labour government will serve its full five years, that’s or democracy, now Kieth, what sort of Socialist utopia will we be living in, with the incompetent one in charge?

He has a plan and being still that ideological young Trotskyite that he still is, he try to bring our country down. He and his cronies will be the new elite, untouchable, while in power by the amount they are within the commons.

The Tories got stale in power, this fresh government are on a ideological march against its people and its structors, they are on a mission to change how this country works and they are setting about suppressing the people and dismantling how society in this country.

At the moment they can legitimately claim, give us time we know what we are doing, but do the people? 4-5% have woken up from the scale of Starmer’s majority, that’s all!

With our first past the post system and like it or not the reform party crashing the big three political parties with their share of the vote, where would an election go? Reform would have to have their share of the vote completely collapse and the masses would have to flit back to the Tories to get Labour out. A bit of a ground hog day politically and the Tories don’t look like a party who will still be punch drunk from the election earlier this year.

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Re: General Election o/t

Postby vvm » Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:58 am

The petitions on that website are a load of rubbish anyway, you don't have to provide any proof of identity to sign them, just a name, email and postcode which they don't even verify so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to pump the numbers up using botted accounts.

It's no secret that Elon Musk and his cronies oppose labour and have been trying to influence people towards their mates in the reform party. It's what finally forced me off Twitter and onto BlueSky.

The tories spent 14 years dragging the country through the shit so it was never going to improve in 6 months under labour, they're just getting the unpopular shit out of the way early, give them a chance.
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Re: General Election o/t

Postby Scouseport_Shrimp » Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:37 pm

vvm wrote:The tories spent 14 years dragging the country through the shit so it was never going to improve in 6 months under labour, they're just getting the unpopular shit out of the way early, give them a chance.


Did the Tory years, and I don't really dispute your description, not follow on from 14 years of Labour rule. Who took us to war in Iraq, who sold the nation's gold at it's cheapest......Mandelson and Campbell appeared to Rule the Roost, and even now Mandelson could be our Man in the USA courtesy of Two Tier. Why indeed should we be worried? :shock:
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