Help the Homeless...Badges for Sale

[Aal]

On Saturday, there will be lots of badges on sale to raise money for Homeless Charities. The kids from Lancaster Rd Primary have been working on a project called Voltage with the Uni to raise money/awareness.
The home made badges feature kids drawings of our very own Christie with the HTH (Help the Homeless) message.
On sale at just 30p, the kids have already sold over 600 at the school in the last few weeks.

Please support this worthy cause...thanks

[wijit]

I wish i was there tomorrow, i also hope these kids sell everything they've made. 30p is nothing, most of us could lose that and not notice.
Good luck to them, I hope they do well and are well recieved.

[Mark S]

If you give me (or send up) some info tomorrow, I will gladly give this a good plug tomorrow.

[Shrimpsscene]

piece in this weeks visitor and in tomorrows match day programme

[Aal]

If you give me (or send up) some info tomorrow, I will gladly give this a good plug tomorrow.

Thanks Mark...as Sean has said there's a short article in the prog. They'll be on sale outside the ground from about 2pm and if there's any left, then in the North Stand once the game kicks off.

Thanks for ur encouragement. Homelessness is an issue that doesn't go away after Christmas. The kids came up with the ideas themselves, and as well as selling over 600 badges in school, they did a teacher's car wash last week and had a 'pyjama day' in school today. They have made over £200 profit so far in a matter of weeks.

The money raised will be donated to local and international homeless charities to buy food/tents.

[Blackburn shrimp]

Great cause and fantastic that kids are getting so involved and showing imagination and enterprise. I will be looking to purchase at the game tomorrow

[Mark S]

Wholeheartedly agree.

Lancaster Rd School are involved in our club already with the anti litter messages that are played before the match and at half time. I love the fact that the kids are involved with the club, the community and with issues that are important.

Maybe the sheep that boo the pro family message at the start of every game could take heed that it is important to listen and respect children's points of views?

[morecambe mick]

The sheep that boo the message are children Mark.

Is it wrong to listen to their views?

Could it be that the only views other people are allowed to express are ones that are most popular?

[Mark S]

The sheep that boo the message are children Mark.

Is it wrong to listen to their views?

Could it be that the only views other people are allowed to express are ones that are most popular?

They have very deep voices for children Mick.

What are their views? How is booing getting a point across? Can the team distinguish between booing to get a point of some kind across or booing as they line up?

Either way, I suspect that most of them have no idea why they are booing except that their mates are.

As for your last comment, I am very disappointed at your insinuation. Everyone is entitled to an opinion (even me), if you can find any evidence that I have suggested otherwise feel free to point it out. If not, I would hope that you withdraw the remark.

[morecambe mick]

It was not an insuation, merely playing the devils advocate and posing the question.

So I will not withdraw.

Maybe they believe their views cannot be heard and are showing their opinions by booing.

After all, at a football match, booing something you disagree with is quite popular, whether it is polictically correct or not, and so would fit the circumstances.

So you know, I get annoyed at them booing the message too, we are a family club.

[Aal]

Getting back to the positive campaign today, can I say thanks on behalf of the kids who raised another £26 today by selling badges for the homeless. I'd like to especially thank the kind folk who gave a £ for a 30p badge.

Lovely to see Christie (in civvies) secretly purchase his as well at about 215pm!! Kids were of course oblivious....lol

Can I also thank Sean for doing such a good job with the prog today featuring so many good 'behind the scenes' aspects of our club.

I agree with Mark about the way in which we should encourage kids today who use a bit of initiative and give of themselves to help others so readily.

As for the boo boys, I agree that many of them are youths, who seem to like showing off to their mates with some bad language. It's a sad fact that many kids go off the rails as teenagers.

[Dazzer]

It was not an insuation, merely playing the devils advocate and posing the question.

So I will not withdraw.

Maybe they believe their views cannot be heard and are showing their opinions by booing.

After all, at a football match, booing something you disagree with is quite popular, whether it is polictically correct or not, and so would fit the circumstances.

So you know, I get annoyed at them booing the message too, we are a family club.

Can someone who does boo this, 'family sport message' before the game tell me why they do it? because I don't get it.

[Aspers]

I thnk its because they hate families.

Big up to the little Brothers and Sistas from Lancy Rd.
Teaching our children about community and international welfare assists
there development into valuable and caring members of society.

Bigger up to the teachers and principle.
BTW have you fixed the railings at the back where we used to sneak in?.

[Aal]

I thnk its because they hate families.

Big up to the little Brothers and Sistas from Lancy Rd.
Teaching our children about community and international welfare assists
there development into valuable and caring members of society.

Bigger up to the teachers and principle.
BTW have you fixed the railings at the back where we used to sneak in?.

Yes the railings got fixed a few years ago but it doesn't stop people playing on the best green space in the area.....

Thanks should also go to the LUVU people at the Uni who set up this project with the school.

[wijit]

It was not an insuation, merely playing the devils advocate and posing the question.

So I will not withdraw.

Maybe they believe their views cannot be heard and are showing their opinions by booing.

After all, at a football match, booing something you disagree with is quite popular, whether it is polictically correct or not, and so would fit the circumstances.

So you know, I get annoyed at them booing the message too, we are a family club.

It was not "Devils Advocate" at all!

The sheep that boo the message are children Mark

That's a statement and one without evidence too. There's neither excuse nor justification for it.

[Duffman]

It was not an insuation, merely playing the devils advocate and posing the question.

So I will not withdraw.

Maybe they believe their views cannot be heard and are showing their opinions by booing.

After all, at a football match, booing something you disagree with is quite popular, whether it is polictically correct or not, and so would fit the circumstances.

So you know, I get annoyed at them booing the message too, we are a family club.

Can someone who does boo this, 'family sport message' before the game tell me why they do it? because I don't get it.

Not that I boo necessarily but I think the whole thing is laughable. Don't get me wrong I understand why people are for it and I understand that a very large portion of our support are younger fans and perhaps an example needs to be set. However I was just like those young fans and I grew up behind the goals at both ends but I'd never stand up in class and chant "the teacher is a whatever". Things like this will kill the atmosphere and kill the game. There's a reason for family stands, use them. I stood behind the goals because I wanted to be a part of and add to the atmosphere not stand there and say please don't swear. I bet if I had said that 10 years ago I'd get a not so friendly message of where to go.

Perhaps the club could go further and turn stairs into slides and give out a toy with a pie. I know I'm a minority in this but people who don't go to CP have laughed when I've told them what gets played before the game. I don't know of any other club that does this, perhaps there's a reason why.

The clubs main problem in attracting people is that a lot of current fans are young and when they hit 16, 17, 18 they move on to uni or work full time. Me and my mates would easily have 10 to 15 people each saturday, now its down to 2 or 3. You're typical Man Utd or Liverpool fan won't want to go to a family club to this extreme.

[Keith]

Things like this will kill the atmosphere and kill the game. There's a reason for family stands, use them. I stood behind the goals because I wanted to be a part of and add to the atmosphere not stand there and say please don't swear. I bet if I had said that 10 years ago I'd get a not so friendly message of where to go.

...and thirty years ago, if you saw a coloured player you could make monkey noises and throw bananas on to the pitch. To my long lasting shame, I remember 'joining in' with some 'older lads' & adults making monkey noises every time a coloured lad got the ball. I was about thirteen and believed that anything we did that 'put him off' his game was acceptable. I'm pleased to say that I realised very quickly that this was far from acceptable behaviour and didn't repeat it, but I still feel embarrassed writing about it thirty years later. Things move on and sometimes progress is for the better.

I have 'let rip' on more than one occasion and to an extent, I agree with you that 'the atmosphere' is a big part of the attraction at football. After a stressful week at work 'letting rip' at football is a real cathartic release. But... if that release spoils someone else's enjoyment, is it still 'my right'? As I've grown older (not necessarily maturer) I've pretty much stopped swearing at football (I was never a prolific swearer anyway... except on here ). That is largely out of respect to other people who don't like it. It used to be acceptable, it is 'becoming' unacceptable. In another twenty years you may well look back at the days when you called another human being a "whatever" just because he was on a football pitch with embarrassment.

[Duffman]

Things like this will kill the atmosphere and kill the game. There's a reason for family stands, use them. I stood behind the goals because I wanted to be a part of and add to the atmosphere not stand there and say please don't swear. I bet if I had said that 10 years ago I'd get a not so friendly message of where to go.

...and thirty years ago, if you saw a coloured player you could make monkey noises and throw bananas on to the pitch. To my long lasting shame, I remember 'joining in' with some 'older lads' & adults making monkey noises every time a coloured lad got the ball. I was about thirteen and believed that anything we did that 'put him off' his game was acceptable. I'm pleased to say that I realised very quickly that this was far from acceptable behaviour and didn't repeat it, but I still feel embarrassed writing about it thirty years later. Things move on and sometimes progress is for the better.

I have 'let rip' on more than one occasion and to an extent, I agree with you that 'the atmosphere' is a big part of the attraction at football. After a stressful week at work 'letting rip' at football is a real cathartic release. But... if that release spoils someone else's enjoyment, is it still 'my right'? As I've grown older (not necessarily maturer) I've pretty much stopped swearing at football (I was never a prolific swearer anyway... except on here ). That is largely out of respect to other people who don't like it. It used to be acceptable, it is 'becoming' unacceptable. In another twenty years you may well look back at the days when you called another human being a "whatever" just because he was on a football pitch with embarrassment.

Whilst I agree Keith, the times they are a changing. I don't think you can compare it to the dark days of racism in football. Perhaps it's hard for me to understand because I'm from a different generation but I think swearing and being racist are completely different and unrelated frankly. To quote Stephen Fry - "Swearing is a really important part of one's life and it would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing there used to be mad, silly, prissy people who would say swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary as such; utter nonsense! The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies!"

Swearing isn't bad, racism is. Calling a black player a racist name would hurt them but calling Mark Wright a wanker wouldn't upset him. It's a way of expressing yourself or like you say, let rip, at the end of the week. That's what football is all about. If I wanted to be stood around kids and not have the ability to swear I'd stand in Wacky Warehouse for 90 mins.

There's a time and a place for swearing and that time is 3pm on a Saturday behind the North Stand.

[Aspers]

There's a time and a place for swearing and that time is 3pm on a Saturday behind the North Stand.

It fucking isn't

[Aal]

There's a time and a place for swearing and that time is 3pm on a Saturday behind the North Stand.

It fucking isn't

Well said Aspers....but as I've said on here before....where oh where is the family area where I can take my kids to a swear free zone at Christie Pk?

[Duffman]

There's a time and a place for swearing and that time is 3pm on a Saturday behind the North Stand.

It fucking isn't

Well said Aspers....but as I've said on here before....where oh where is the family area where I can take my kids to a swear free zone at Christie Pk?

Isn't it in the main stand near where the away fans sit?